Sunday, August 26, 2012

Chapters 1-6

1. Explain why Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks.
2. Do you think Chief Powhatan's prophecy will turn out to be accurate?  Why or why not?

Please respond to both of the above questions.

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  2. Even though you might think that it was cruel and unfair that Samuel and the others had to stay in the between deck, there was a reason for it. First of all, they had to stay in the ‘tween deck so they wouldn’t get in the crew’s way. The crew had lots of things to control to keep the boat moving in the right direction and to keep the boat afloat and they didn’t need Samuel and the others in the way. Another reason they had to stay in the between deck is because every passenger would want to be out in the open air so it would be too crowded for the crew to do their work. The gentlemen would be trying to control how the boat was being run and the boys would be in the way, and it would just end up in a big disaster. So actually, it was better that the boys and the others stayed in the ‘tween deck or otherwise the boat would’ve been a big disaster.

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    1. That was the answer to question 1.

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    2. G I agree with you completely. The only difference between mine and yours is that you said that all the passengers would want to be on deck. I never thought a bought that being an issue. But i agree 100 percent with you. So all in all you wrote a great paragraph that I completely agree with
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    3. This is a great paragraph! I agree that to all that you wrote. It made so much sense. It was not cruel and unfair that they had to stay down there. They would get in the sailors way. It would also make the upper/main deck way too crowded. It WOULD make the upper deck a big, huge disaster! See, I totally AGREE with you.

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    4. Giuliana, I think your comment was great. I agree with everything you said about why Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks.

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    5. I completely agree with you Giuliana and I believe that they had to stay in the 'tween decks to stay out of the crew's way also. Also, I believe that it was also cruel and tortuous due to the conditions in the 'tween decks with all the men throwing up and getting sea sick. I also believe that the servants had it hard down there because they had everyone sick and fighting and they still had to serve their masters on the long voyage to the New Land.

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    6. I agree. They could have easily got in the sailors way. Samuel could have accidentally bumped the sailors and slowed down the voyage. If everyone was on deck there would be a lot of tripping gentlemen. The gentlemen would be constantly arguing about the best way to guide the ship. Also the boys could have got tangled in the rigging and hang themselves. I think that you have the right answer.

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    7. Your paragraph is really good! Everything you said is right. The boys would get in the way and just cause trouble. The crew had lots of things to do and didnt need them in thier way. Every passanger would want to go up there and it would get to crowded. It is better the boys stayed in the tween decks. I agreed to everything you wrote, your paragraph is well written and has good points.

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  3. 1.Samuel and the other boys stayed between decks for multiple reasons. The boys had to stay between decks because they might get in the sailors way. Also the upper decks were for the sailors and captains. And they boys were not paying their way. They were also ordered to not be up on deck. They were also not allowed on deck because they were not as good as the sailors. samuel and the other boys were not allowed on deck for these reasons.

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    1. I agree with everything you wrote, Hunter.First of all, I agree with what you said about how the boys might get in the sailors way. If the boys were allowed up on the top deck, the sailors would always be bumping into the clueless boys. For example, if the boys were just standing in the middle of the top deck, and something went wrong with the sails, the sailors would be in panic mode and trying to get the sails fixed, and would keep bumping into the boys and pushing them over. The boys would just be one more thing to worry about. In addition, I also agree with what you about how the top deck was only for captains and sailors. It was just so they could do their work without having the boys and gentlemen in the way.

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  4. 1. Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks because Captain Newport said that they would get in the way if they didn't.

    2. I think Chief Powhatan's prophecy will turn out accurate. Why? One because it all seems true. Two because so far the English have landed in the year 1607. Three because they live in the James River area and because eventually we would displace the Indians.

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    1. Allison even though that seems true and all you have to consider how many people came over that year. It may have been a group that they came over in that year. I do agree with what you said though a bought how they came though the James river area. I never thought a bought us the Americans displacing the Indians from their home. Maybe his prophecy will be correct. Great ideas by the way.

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  5. 1. Samuel and the other boys also stayed below decks because if they were up on the main deck all the time, it would get way too crowded.

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  6. Samuel has the other kids have to stay under the deck because they can’t get in the sailors way. Another reason is people get sick under the deck and always want fresh air but when everyone goes up there it is way too crowded. It is very unfair to Samuel. The only time Samuel goes above the is when he empties the slop bucket. The captain thinks that they can’t do what the sailors have to do because they would get hurt or not get it done. In the long run it’s better for Samuel to stay under the deck. That’s why he has to stay under the deck. Sean M.

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  7. 1.) Samuel and the other boys had to stay in the tween decks because if those boys went up there it would be unfair to the other men. The men would go up there also because the boys went up there. The crew up there has enough work as it is, if there were all those people up there it would be crowded, and it would be hard to get around. If there were an emergency it would be hard to move with all those people up there so they crew could not do there job. It would just be a disaster, so it may seem cruel but there is a good reason.
    ( That's the answer the the first question. )

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    1. Chloe, I agree with everything you said! If the boys went up there it would be unfair to the men. I also agree with what you said about if there was an emergency it would be hats to move because it would be so crowded. I didnt think about either of those things. Your paragragh is really good though!!

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    2. Chief Powhatan's prophecy was that they would win 2 out of three battles against a new tribe. I think his prophecy is right. I believe that in the first battle they will not lose very many people. In the second battle I think they will only lose a few more people than the first. In the third battle though I think it will be brutal. I believe they will lose a lot of people but I don't think they will be completely wiped out. I think there wont be very many people but there will still be some people.

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    3. That was number two and I didn't mean to reply oops....

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    4. this is for Becca
      Becca I agree with you because I also think that chief Powhatan prophecy is right.

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    5. I agree with almost everything you said. I agree that they will win two battles. I also agree that they will lose the third battle. But, I don't think that their tribe will be completely wiped out. I think that they will barely survive. So, we don't completely agree. I still think that was a well written paragraph.

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  8. Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks because the other men never liked them being up there because there was not a lot for them,and all the men needed room to work the ship.

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  9. 1) Samuel and the other boys had to stay in the tween decks for multiple reasons. First of all because it would get too crowded. If the Sailors,captains,and the boys were up there no one would get any work done because it was too crowded. Another reason is because the boys would get in the sailors way. The crew had lots of things to do and they didn't need Samuel and the other boys in their way. The third reason is that the top deck was for captains and sailors only. The boys were instructed by Captain Newport not to go on the upper deck. It was better that the boys had to stay in the tween deck because it would have been a big disaster. These are all reasons the boys had to stay in the tween deck.

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    1. I completely agree with you Becca, if Samuel and the boys got in the way there would be big trouble.

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    2. Becca I agree with you mostly. That it would get way to crowded if everybody was on the upper deck. If Samuel wasn't aloud on the deck then they totally would get in trouble. Yet if it didn't matter they wouldn't get in trouble so i agree and disagree on that note. Good job Becca i agree with you mostly it just depends on the situation.

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  10. 1. Samuel and the boys had to stay between decks because, they were told that they would get in the sailors’ ways if they went up on top. So they only went up to empty pails, return pots and pans to the galley, and run errands for their boss/master. Rules were very strict if you broke any you would be punished by who ever caught you or your boss/master. If you got in a sailor's way you could cause a delay on your trip or even tear something important, like an extra sail that sailor was carrying. i
    If a sail was torn and then the extra was torn it could be a huge problem for every one. Instead of bringing the torn sail down and mending while the other was up you would have no sail and two sails to be mended. You could also spill a bucket of tar for the rigging and then there wouldn't be enough left of that days supplies to complete the job. Then the ropes could fray and they they would be put way off track because then they would have to replace that entire piece of rope. So it's probably best they boys stay between decks instead of risk getting into trouble.

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  11. They also had to stay between decks so in case of any kind of emergency there would be more room on the ship and the only time they were aloud to go up there was to dump out there buckets.Also cause to everyone they were counted as kids not men.

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  12. 2. Even though the guess seems dumb I think it will be correct. I think that the chief's prophecy will be correct but I don't think it will happen till the end of the book. I think this because people back then were usually correct on their guesses.I also think this because it would ad action to the book. Also the title says Blood on the River so I think this will be talking a bought a fight with the Indians. So I believe this prediction will be correct.I conclude that this prediction from the chief will be scary accurate due to the title.

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  13. 1. David Springfield The boys had to stay below decks for two reasons. The boys had to stay between decks as to not bother the sailors. If they did the sailors would be slowed from getting their work done. If they didn’t get their work done they wouldn’t get to Virginia on time. They also had to stay down because they might accidently destroy something on the boat. They could easily get tangled in the vast amounts of rigging and ropes. Then they would have to stop and fix the boat. That is why they had to stay between decks.

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    1. I agree with you, but in my opinion, the sailors were a little strict with the servants and boys because if one person came up above the tween deck without a slop bucket, then they would be hit in the back with an oar. But they could get in the way, which would cause the sailors to stop the boat and have to repair the ship.

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    2. 1. I agree with your ideas about "work needing to be done so they could get to Virginia on time." However, time seemed to be difficult as the ships sat out in England waters for so long, waiting for the wind to change. It would seem very reasonable that teenage boys could destroy things on ships. I didn't think about that being another delay for their long journey, so I liked your thoughts.

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    3. 1. I also agree with you as well david there is work to be done and have kids run around would be hard so yeah I agree with you there but they did sit in the same waters for so long that it might have been necessary to let them out every once in a while. The sailors on the other hand were a bit to strict with the rule of being on the top deck.

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  14. 2.) I think Chief Powhatan's prophecy will turn out accurate because the first battle Powhatan will win and the tribe will grow strong, the second battle Powhatan will win and the tribe will grow strong again, but the third battle is the longest and is blood bath, and the Powhatan is of no more which means the Powhatan tribe has been defeated. I think Powhatan's Prophecy will turn out accurate because it makes sense, the first battle wins, and the other tribe loses but they learn more about how the Powhatan tribe fights and increase there knowledge in the next battle and they do but still lose. After they lose the second battle the tribe has the perfect plan to win this time, because they know how the Powhatan tribe fights and what their weaknesses are......the other tribe then ends the Powhatens for good.

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    1. (so here I am, reposting what I already typed)

      2. Although I agree with most everything that you said, I do disagree with some things. First of all, I agree with what you said about how the prophecy would be correct and how the colonists would end up winning. The colonists would keep on getting defeated, then rebuilding, until they finally came out on top. On the other hand, I disagree with what you said about how the Powhatans being ended for good. I think the Powhatans would still be a tribe, because of all the people that didn't fight would still be alive. I think that the Powhatans will remain a tribe, just be mainly under control of the Englishmen. Over all, I think you had a very well thought out, very well planned paragraph. Keep up the good work!

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    2. Chloe, I think your comment was awesome. I agree with everything you said. I never thought about the enemy learn the Powhatans weaknesses in order to defeat them inthe third battle.

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  15. 2. Chief Powhatan made a prophecy that his tribe would fight a new tribe three times. He said that they would win two times but during the third battle he would lose a bloody battle and his tribe will be no more. I think he will be right about most of it. I think that his tribe will fight the other tribe and win two times. I also think that he will lose the third battle, but I don’t think that they will be entirely wiped out. I think they will survive. So, I think that most of the prophecy will, be right but not all of it.

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  16. 2. I think Chief Powhatan’s prophecy will turn out to be true, but I think the Jamestown settlers will have many problems before they end up having victory. First of all, Jamestown is a town present day, it just has a different name. If its a town today that means that the colonist won, and won the battle between themselves and the Powhatan’s that also means they won against the diseases and their own stupidity. In addition, the prophecy so far is correct. The englishmen have settled on the Chesapeake Bay, and are hunting and fishing on the Powhatan’s land, which was predicted in the prophecy. The indians keep attacking the colonist, and keep winning, as predicted in the prophecy, but the colonist keep rebuilding and strengthening their colony. If the story goes on the way I think it will, I predict that the people of Jamestown will have victory and expand their little town.

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  17. That's my answer for the 2nd question.

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  18. I think that Chief Powhatan will be very accurate.One because all the Indians lived in the Jamestown area were they had clammed Jamestown.Two because the white men just thought that the Indians were just savages and that they did not need to be bothering them if they were going to live there.Three because that is the Powhatan's land and he is not taking kindly to them invading and building there town on his shores and he did not want them attacking his people.

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  19. 2. I believe Chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true, because there were a lot of wars between us and the Native Americans. We basically took their home land from them. They tried to defend it but we just plucked them off one by one until they surrendered. If they tried to fight against the Native Americans they would probably lose because the y would be hungry, tired from the ship's journey, hungry, sick, or not used to the way the Native Americans fought. That would be the first time they were said to have fought. The second time would be more brutal but the Native Americans would have been preparing. The third time though it should be nasty and brutal. Both sides will have been preparing and everyone will have recovered from both sides. The best on both sides will probably be battling against each other. Then the men on the settlers' side with start killing the Native Americans with no mercy, or the prophecy is referring to now when there are very few Native Americans left in America.

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  20. 1)
    The boys had to stay in between the deck because the captain said to them in chapter 3 that he doesn’t want them to get in the sailor’s way. But I think that the captain just didn’t want them to be in his sight. Think about it, they are going to be sea sick and he knows it. They will be in the way, and they aren’t men so he might think that they won’t work as hard. I think that the captain underestimated them because they would be hard workers. I think that the boys are old enough to help themselves and he needed to realize that they would be of better use than to just be dead weight in between decks and throwing up in their slop buckets. That is why they stayed in between decks.




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    I do believe that the prophecy will come true... If you read the prophecy it says that the Tribe of The Bay of Chesapeake will come. The crew and sailors coming with Captain John Smith is the tribe of the Bay of Chesapeake. Also it says that they will bring their longboats onto the land of the Powhatan. I also believe that that the Indian Tribe of Powhatan really really really dislikes the,” Tribe of The Bay of Chesapeake,” also known to us as Samuel and Captain John Smith. They will get in a fight and start a trial of wars. I think it will come true because of all these clues and I think the Chief of Powhatan was right.

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      I agree with the fact that the Powhatan will be defeated, because the sailors are already on their way to the Chesapeake bay, and Chief Powhatan is a very wise man. If he can get the beginning right, then he will most likely be able to predict the rest of the story correct.

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    2. 2. Ami, I completely agree with your thoughts about the prophecy. I especially like how you interpret the Chesapeake tribe and how Samuel and captain John Smith take over by building their homes. That is exactly how I read the prophecy, I just think it's sad that American Indians didn't ask us to come - we kind of just showed up. It really is too bad that we all couldn't get along.

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    3. 2. I agree with you ami as well I like how you are think about the topic I believe that we shouldn't have just showed up we showed have gone to shore and consulted with the tribe leader before make a settlement right on their land so we didn't make the right destitution.

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    4. 2. I definently agree with you. I thought something totally different at first. After reading yours I want to go back and change mine that's how I think about yours. I mean really if you just think about it it's common sense. In the end the captain realizes like you said that they were all hard workers. That's exactly what I would have said after reading yours.

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  21. 1. The reason why Samuel and the other boys had to stay between the decks is it couldn't get crowded up on the top deck. Many bad things could come from the young boys on the top deck. First reason they shouldn't be up there is they might bother or disturb the men who are working.If the working men are disturbed the boat might not function properly. Another reason why they shouldn't be up on the top is they if they don't have a good reason to be up there they could get in trouble. They can only be up there if emptying their waste buckets.These are the reasons why the boys have to stay between decks.

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    1. Hannah I never thought about that they might disturb the men who are working. I agree with you that it would get to crowded also. They can only go up there for certain reasons and I assume they have to kinda be fast about empty slop buckets. I also agree that there reasons would have to be good to go up to the upper deck or else they would get in trouble. Many bad thing could happen if a boy was on the upper deck like mess something up that the men were working on. I agree with you completely Hannah. Good job Hannah.

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  22. 1.There are several reasons why Samuel and the the other boys have to stay between decks on the ship. Samuel and the other boy had to stay between decks because they were not allowed to go up top. Unless they were taking the slot bucket to dump it out or to take the oatmeal pot back to the cook. The only way to go up top is to take slot bucket or the oatmeal pot. Another reason why they were not allowed because the caption doesn’t want them getting in the soldiers way. In between decks it is hot and the servant get their food served last. When they get food they have to eat fast so they can get as much as they need.

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  23. 2.I think Chief Powhatan’s prophecy will turn out to be accurate, but it would matter how much time and preparations between the attacks. It will also depend on how many people would be killed in the tribe. It could depend on if people in the tribe are prepared for another attack. The first time they get attacked they are strong, but the second time they were attacked they were weaker but still win. The third time they had fewer brave and strong fighters, so they lost. The tribe might become weak because the battle lasted longer than they expected and their crop failed. The other tribe took their land because the Chief Powhatan and the fighters died.

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  24. This is Orin S.

    1. The reason Samuel and the others had to stay between decks is because I think the sailors were over-reacting about the fact that the boys needed to stay out of the way. The sailors were rude to the boys because the sailors thought they were more important or better. The sailors keep calling the boys peasants or commoners. I don't agree with how the sailors treat the boys because everyone is (or should be) equal and the boys barely even get in the way because there are so few boys.

    2. I believe that Chief Powhatan’s prophecy will turn out correct, because so far in the book the group of the sailors has shown up on the island of the Powhatans on the Chesapeake Bay. If he has already got this much of the story right, he might as well - or probably - have the rest correct.

    He (Chief Powhatan) was kind of like the weather man. He used the present information and the patterns of activity and predicted what would happen to the Powhatans in the future. This is why I think the prophecy will come true.

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  25. I think Chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true. The first reason I think it will come true is it says in the book that it will come true. By the time the settlers overtake the Indians they will already have to overcome any obstacles decisions. When the battle is over there will still be some Indians left in the tribe. Once they gain the victory against the Indians expand and become the beginning of a new town. That’s why I think Chief Powhatan’s prophecy will come true.

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    1. Sean I completly agree with you that chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true.

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    2. I agree with you on almost everything... I don't agree with you on the part where you think they will start a new town. I don't agree on this because they are still travelling. They might have wars and arguements on their land but they are still on their way. They haven't reached their final destination yet. But I completely agree with you on everything else.... :)

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  26. 1. Explain why Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks.

    Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks because first it would get too crowded for the boys and the captains and other important people to share a deck. They wouldn’t get anything done if they were all together on the same deck. The tweens are supposed to stay on their deck. I wouldn’t be very fair the workers to mix they would get into big trouble if they went on upper deck. They knew that they would throw stuff overboard get in there stuff get sick the sailors knew it.

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  27. 1. The boys had to stay between the decks because they would get in the way of the sailors. They also had to stay between the decks because that was the only place that they could stay. The other layers had crates in them or animals in them. The have very important jobs and they can’t have boys getting in their way. The only time they can go up to the deck is when they are emptying slop buckets. The boys will get hit with a oar if they go up with a slop bucket. That is why the boys had to stay between the decks.

    2. I believe Chief Powhatan’s prophecy will come true. I don’t think it will happen right away but over the time of the whole book. The title is called Blood On the River which suggest that there will be a fight by a river and many people will die. The first attack will probably be a surprise attack so many of the settlers will die. The second will be a surprise but the settlers will be more prepared than last time. The last attack the settler will be prepared to fight so the Powhatans will die. The Powhatan will be no more after the final attack.

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    1. Garrett I agree with number 2 because I also think that Chief Powhatan's prophecy won't happen quickly.

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  28. 2. I think that Chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true. In the book his prophecy is happening there at the Chesapeake bay the sailors are with the Powhatans on their island. The book said the prophecy was going to come. Its correct so far there hunting on their land that was mentioned in the prophecy.

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  29. 2. I think that Chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true. In the book his prophecy is happening there at the Chesapeake bay the sailors are with the Powhatans on their island. The book said the prophecy was going to come. Its correct so far there hunting on their land that was mentioned in the prophecy. I believe the prophecy said that they would win the first battle. Also the second battle and lose the third battle it will be bloody thats why its called blood on the river. I think they will kind loose people and their tribe will not be as much as it was before. I believe that the prophecy will come true by the end of the book.

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    1. I agree with you Ellie. I also believe the prophecy will come true. It won't happen right away. The attack the Powhatan will win. They will win the second time too. The last time the colonists will win the battle because they will be prepared. After the third battle the Powhatan will be no more.

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    2. I also thought that Chief Powhatans prophecy would come true. After reading on I think I am wrong. Later on in the book they are friends with that tribe. But soon after new settlers come and start a war with the Indians. The reason why they became enemys with the other tribes is some colonists went around beating people, stealing there goods, and setting there houses on fire. If the coloists weren't so dumb then this would never have happened. So further reading I figure iut that my first prediction was right.

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  30. 2. I predict that Chief Powhatan's prophecy will come to be true. The first reason why I think his prophecy will be true is on the cover it shows two Native Americans spying on the ships coming in,I think this will anger the Natives and they will attack. I believe the reasons that the Powhatan tribe will attack is they are upset that people are on their land.The final reason I think the prophecy will come to be true is the Natives won't like the white men taking their land.I think the white men will walk on to the Natives land and claim it theirs. This will upset the Natives and so they attack.This is why I think that the prophecy will be true.

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    1. Hannah, you have a really good paragraph. This paragraph has good sentences and facts. I agree with you when you said The Powhatan's will attack. Also, that you said that the white men will walk on the Natives land and claim it theirs. I think that it is awesome that you can get all that from the title, picture, and the back of the book. I think that you did a wonderful job on this question.

      You did not space some words. (just letting you know)

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  31. 1. Samuel and the other boys had to stay between decks for a couple of reasons. Most importantly, they were told to stay out of the way of the sailors. This makes sense, because there is a lot to do when sailing a large ship and the boys were very inexperienced. Men were needed to do hard work and the boys probably didn't have the strength to be useful. Secondly, there were many people on board. So there was certainly not enough room for everyone to be on the top deck, out in the fresh air. Lastly, the boys definitely had to follow orders. If Captain Newport said that he didn't want the boys getting in the sailor's way, then they certainly would not be allowed to be up on the top deck.
    2. I absolutely think that the prophecy that was delivered to Cheif Powhatan will turn out to be accurate. If the "Cheapeake" that is mentioned in the prophecy is the same Chesapeake that refers to American land, history tells us that after a lot of fighting, Indians lost the war and were forced to give up their land. That's why we have Indian Reservations in America today. It seems sad to me that Indians in America were forced to give up their land.

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    1. Hayden I agree with you when you said that not everyone can't be on the top deck at the same time and that they need to stay out of the sailors way.

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  32. 1. Samuel and the other boys had to stay between the decks for many reasons. One was they had to stay out of the sailors way. Because the sailors had a very important job on the top deck. Below were supplies and animals so they could not go down there. Plus there were so many people on board that they had to stay below deck. The only time that the people aboard were allowed up on the deck was to empty out the slop buckets and if they went ashore. So these are some of the reasons they were no permitted to go above the deck.
    2. I think that the prophecy that Cheif Powhatan gave will turn out to be true. Because in the prophecy he tell of a land named Chesapeake and they have sailed right in to it. So I think the prophecy will be true.

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    1. I agree with you Tyler. The boys could not get in the way of the sailors. The other decks were filled with crates and chickens. If everyone was up on the deck the sailors would not get their jobs done. The sailors jobs are very important. They could get blown off course if the sailors did not get their jobs done. I agree with you 100% percent Tyler.

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  33. 1. The reason Samuel and the other boy's had to stay in between decks was because there jobs were cleaning out slop buckets and pots and pans. They also weren't aloud to get in the sailors way. Also they hated there jobs.

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  34. 2. I think chief Powhatan's prophecy will come true but I think that it won't happen quickly. I think that The tittle blood on the river means that going to be about a battle by a river and lots of people will die.

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  35. The reason Samuel and the other boys had to stay in tween decks was because their jobs were to clean slop buckets,pots,and pans. They also weren't allowed to mess with the sailors.

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  36. I think Chief Powhatan's prophecy is true,but I don't think that it will happen immediately. I think that the title"Blood On The River"means that there will be a battle by a river.

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